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Mar 11, 2020

The Guru Meditates.

For a special bonus episode, Dan sits down with previous guests and friends of the show Jeff Berg and Andrew Welyczko to talk about their favorite deceased computer company: Commodore! Commodore products were an integral part of our early computing lives, and we discuss the highs, the lows, and the bizarre that defined Jack Tramiel’s legacy. Why did Apple succeed at the vertical integration game and Commodore crashed and burned? We talk all the details. Jeff discusses his time working for Commodore’s ad agency, Andrew remembers Deluxe Paint, and Dan cares way too much about a game where you give fuzz people crystals.

Originally recorded on March 7, 2020

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